Episode 25: For the Hoarder!

We discuss the death of nostalgia & loot boxes. Jared gives a 60 second review. And we talk about game collecting, and our CERTIFIED FIVE STEP PROGRAM to salvation.

Episode 25: For the Hoarder!
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:35:20


Main Topic: Tackling Backlog

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The Five Stages of Backlog Management (The Cherup-Sines Model­™)

Stage 1: Recognition

  • How many games is too many?
  • Inventory your games

Stage 2: Bargaining

  • Prioritize those you want to really, really play
  • Learn to ignore new releases for a few weeks or to play multiple games

Stage 3: Panic

  • Develop crippling decision anxiety about games and just stop playing altogether

Stage 4: Mitigation

  • Recognize you will probably not play everything you buy
  • Consider hiding games you don’t want to play
    • GOG and Steam Filters
    • Console Library Filters

Stage 5: Acceptance

  • Play whatever you feel like whenever you feel like it
    • Or be Jared and just find more and more obscure games to find and play… eventually. (Shinobi III)
    • Or just wait for the new God of War.

Fans Giving of the Back Feeds

  • None this week

One Dumb Thing

  • Sea of Thieves – “Insta-brigging” – Worst mechanic ever in an online multiplayer-game

Podcast Chapters

00:00:00 – Intro
00:03:12 – Tangents
01:01:48 – Main Topic: Tackling Backlog
01:23:05 – New Show Idea? We’ll See!
01:31:11 – One Dumb Thing
01:33:32 – Outro


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkj8kxK5AIk

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance



Did you know everything is coming to Switch? Black Panther Review. And discussing Work/Life/Fun balance when it comes to video games.

Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:35:45


  • We check in with Shawn on Star Trek Discovery’s first season.
    • Half Physical
  • Infinity War moves up to April 27th
  • Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition releases March 27!!!
  • Diablo coming to Switch? Maybe? Blizzard says, calm down. Will Shawn buy it? Jared will. (Yes.. Diablo III is Skyrim 2.0 for Shawn – he owns 5 versions already)
  • Black Panther Review
  • Final Fantasy XV – PC/Royal Edition Impression
  • Marvel comics rebooting.. Again…
  • Nintendo Direct News
    • WarioWare Gold
    • Dark Souls Amiibo sold out in minutes – more on that later
    • Single Player Splatoon 2 Expansion
    • Smash Bros in 2018
      • Let the hype train BEGIN – CHOO CHOO

Main Topic: Work/Life/Fun Balance

Fans Giving of the Back Feeds

  • We did a live show. You guys seemed pretty happy.

One Dumb Thing

  • Gamestop Exclusive Amiibo

Podcast Chapters:

00:00:00 – Intro
00:02:46 – Tangents
00:57:21 – Main Topic: Work/Life/Fun Balance
01:27:44 – Giving Of The Back Feeds
01:28:57 – One Dumb Thing


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music: Queen – Under Pressure

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance


Episode 23: 2017 What the What?

Two Sines, and one Co-Sines discuss 2017 the year in review, and what we expect out of 2018.

Episode 23: 2017 What the What?
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:20:53


  • We didn’t put together any notes – deal with it!
  • No Tangents this episode

Main Topic: What we remember

  • Games of 2017
  • Movies of 2017
  • Pop Culture of 2017
  • Yeah, that happened…
  • Looking ahead to 2018 and beyond

Fans Giving of the Back Feeds

  • @tacosteve thinks AR is the ticket, and that VR isn’t a gimmick

One Dumb Year

    • Destiny 2 is a close second!


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Outro Music : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBZ0_G7I60&feature=youtu.be

Hyperbolic Tangent #1: Seeking Balance

Jared & Shawn have diverging opinions. No one is right. No one is wrong. There is a balance in the Force. Here’s what we thought from The Last Jedi.

Hyperbolic Tangent #1: Seeking Balance
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:32:56


Star Wars: The Last Jedi

  • Truly Opposing Views
    • Jared – Pro TLJ
    • Shawn – Not a Fan
  • Evolution vs. Change for Change Sake
    • Rehashing Old Beats
    • Rewriting The Force
    • Character Arcs
      • Poe
      • Finn
      • Rey
      • Kylo
      • Old Man Luke
  • Overriding Themes
    • Let go of the Past
      • Let go of your expectations.
      • There is no happy ever after
    • Failure is the best teacher
    • What A Twist! (or not)
    • Everything has to make you laugh so you don’t get sad
  • Where does it go from here?
    • TLJ did not set up EP 9 – it destroyed it
      • No it didn’t. It made it unclear. There’s always somewhere to go.


Intro Music: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace – Duel of the Fates – John Williams

Outro Music :  You’re Welcome (Star Wars: The Last Jedi / Moana “You’re Welcome” Parody Song)

Episode 22: What He Did

Mega Man is back baybee! We talk about Disney the devourer of worlds. Ryan Reynolds as Pikachu. And we talk about how Shawn betrayed us all. Oh and Net Neutrality is dead. All in all an uplifting episode.

Episode 22: What He Did
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:11:46


  • MEGA MAN 11!!!
    • 19 Mega Man games coming to Switch in 2018
  • Ryan Reynolds is Pikachu in Detective Pikachu. Acceptable replacement for Danny Devito.
  • Atom in Injustice. HIT BOX CHEATER?
  • Shawn bought into the VR hype. He is lost to us. RIP.
  • Disney owns everything
  • Net Neutrality falls to Corporate Overlords
  • Zelda DLC 2
  • Bayonetta 1, 2 & 3 are coming to the Switch

Main Topic: Shawn’s Intervention

  • Why Shawn failed
  • What was the moment he decided to surrender to mediocrity?
  • How could this have been prevented?
  • What lessons does this teach us for the future?
  • Can he be redeemed or is he truly lost?

Fans Giving of the Back Feeds

We didn’t get any from you from this episode. So make sure you tell us how you really feel.

One Dumb Thing

  • The repeal of net neutrality


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music:  8-Bit Sound – The Doors – People Are Strange (8 bit)

Outro Music : Carol of the Belmonts – Doctor Octoroc

Episode 21: Unpopular Opinion

We talk about Skyrim again on the Switch. Justice League was a movie. In our main topic, we dive into what makes a game a cult classic.

Episode 21: Unpopular Opinion
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:25:16


  • Marvel Heroes shuts down 4 months after launching on consoles
  • Justice League – No you don’t need to see it, honestly
  • Skyrim on Switch – Because Skyrim or DIE
  • Doom on the Switch
  • Rocket League on the Switch
  • The Punisher (I need to catch up on this – Jared) – Iron Man can’t stop war in Afghanistan
  • Titan Quest: Ragnarok – Expansion just shows up 11 years after game’s initial releases
  • Big updates coming to Splatoon 2, not that Shawn will play

Main Topic: Cult Classics

  • What makes a game a cult classic?
  • Games where critical reception was less than favorable.
  • Games that have found a new life beyond death.
  • Systems that are no longer around (Turbografix, Neo Geo, etc)
  • Jared’s cult favorites
    • Blast Corps
    • Wonderful 101
    • Windjammers (Neo Geo / Was very hard to find until this year)
    • Donkey Kong Jungle Beat (Yes the one with the bongos)
    • Pepsiman (No US release for obvious reasons)
    • Uniracers
    • Elite Beat Agents
    • Wario’s Woods
    • Tetris Attack
    • Ikaruga / Radiant Silvergun (Treasure Games, Gunstar Heroes, etc)
    • All Clover Studios games (Okami, Viewitful Joe, etc)
    • Terranigma (No US release)
    • Maniac Mansion
  • Shawn’s cult favorites
    • Vampire the Masquerade – Bloodlines – still being patched by fans
    • Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
    • System Shock
    • Mutant League Football
    • Heroes of Might and Magic III
    • Torchlight
    • Persona 3
    • Destiny (YES DESTINY)
    • No Man’s Sky
    • Gabriel Knight
    • Disgaea
  • Others
    • Policenauts (Kojima)
    • Snatcher (Kojima)
    • Neo Geo Games
  • Indie ≠ Cult Favorite
  • Does the AAA/Indie market allow for cult games?
  • Just because they have a following doesn’t mean they’re great

One Dumb (EA) Thing(s)

  • EA suspends Refunds on Origin & Disables Microtransactions in BF II
  • EA on what free really means ($2000+ to unlock everything or literally days of your life)

Giving Thanks

  • Thank you to everyone who has listened this past year, we truly appreciate it. ( We know It has not been a year yet -Shawn)


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music: Pepsiman Theme Song

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance


00:00:00 – Intro
00:02:58 – Tangents
00:05:32 – Justice League Review (SPOILERS)
00:26:06 – Tangents Continue (END OF SPOILERS)
00:49:46 – Main Topic: Cult Classics
01:16:15 – One Dumb (EA) Thing(s)
01:23:14 – Giving Thanks

Episode 20: Making It All Up

This episode, we talk about Star Wars saturation, Thor: Fraggle Rock, and what it takes to make a game of your own.

Episode 20: Making It All Up
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:26:09


  • Miiverse is no longer. RIP.
  • New Star Wars Trilogy – may not be Skywalker based
  • Thor: Ragnarok – Jared’s & Shawn’s Review
  • Sony going BIG with VR – Black Friday discounts on Skyrim VR bundle – There will be a version of Skyrim, Shawn won’t own.
  • TMNT is coming to Injustice 2…. what?… .. okay!
  • Breath of the Wild DLC, still coming out this year… have no idea what it is… but hey… Amiibo.
  • Shawn shares his thoughts about the upcoming Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
  • Blizz-Con
    • Starcraft II goes free to play
    • New Overwatch Cinematic – Reinhardt
    • New Blizzard World Map
    • New Overwatch hero – Moira
    • World of Warcraft new expansion… and new vanilla server
    • No Diablo… wonder why….

Main Topic:  So you want to be a Games Designer

  • Creating your own games
  • Where to start?
    • Mods
    • Start Small – build that then expand
  • Who do you work for?
  • Tools to make games
    • Systems
      • D20/PF/SF
    • Game Engines
      • Unreal
      • Unity
      • RPG Maker MV
      • Pico
    • Art Resources
    • Writing?
  • Not Tetris – and example of deconstructing a game that is not as fun to play.

Fans Giving of the Back Feeds

@420_Lux: @4Score7Pongs I am offended Jared said loins I would like a refund. Also I play switch 95% of the time handheld. Shaun really shows his age this week.

Shawn Nagle: When it comes to loot boxes, I have no issues…as long as they don’t give you in game advantage. You can choose to buy the boxes that are cosmetic. I like new skins and mounts in heroes of the storm. It adds to a game where you are pretty much doing the same thing over and over.

One Dumb Thing

  • Disney Streaming Service – New SW TV and Marvel TV


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music: Torsten Gran-Ruaz – The Elder Scrolls III- Morrowind

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Episode 19: Just Chill Man

Shawn says we shouldn’t let you know when we’re gone. Did you even notice? We talk about some latest news, Mario Odyssey, and how to JUST CHILL. ARE YOU CHILL?

Episode 19: Just Chill Man
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:17:54


  • The end of Toys in Gaming – Lego Dimensions support ends – Amiibo still selling… not sure why… they don’t do anything.
  • PC Destiny 2 has Aim Assist and no Chat…
  • First set of Xbox games on Xbox One BC Released – SWTOR & Prince of Persia!
  • Battlefront 2… is Shawn buying?
  • Dragon Age creative director leaves BioWare
  • EA Death Machine: Killed Star Wars Burnout Crossover Series we didn’t even know we wanted.
  • A Nintendo Switch Knockoff That Can Play Basically All Retro Games
  • VVVVVV is coming to Switch NOVEMBER 17th
  • Rocket League Coming to Switch NOVEMBER 14th
  • Sony Press Conference
    • Spider-man
    • Spleunky 2
    • Shadow Colossus REMAKE 4K HD FRAMES
    • Last Of Us Part II: Depressing World Simulator Murderscape Stabville, Incorporated District of Tortureville
  • Mario Odyssey -Mini-reviews by BOTH of us

Main Topic:  Chill Games

  • Sometimes passing time is just about that…
  • Games as Meditation
  • Relaxation is also about the soundtrack
  • Chill Game Examples:
    • Stardew Valley
    • Journey
    • Katamari
    • Sims
    • No Man’s Sky
    • Starbound
    • MineCraft
    • Animal Crossing
    • Mobile Games

One Dumb Thing


Charity Shout Out

Friend of the show Daphne is raising money for kids. A 24 hour boardgaming marathon. Donate here.

You can follow their Twitch stream here.


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music:   Stardew Valley – Raven’s Descent

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Episode 18: Go Boldly and Carry Hope

We discuss toxic game culture and its impact on gaming at large and people who identify as gamers. We also discuss STAR TREK, and why we need it today, and how Star Trek Discovery doesn’t fill the need.

Episode 18: Go Boldly and Carry Hope
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:36:04


Main Topic: Why We Need Star Trek

Star Trek Discovery

  • Spoilers!! Star Trek: Discovery – a (not so) quick review
  • Black Alert

What is Star Trek?

  • 30th Anniversary of Star Trek: The Next Generation – Honest Trailers
  • The Philosophy of Star Trek
    • Mankind will get through this and be better
    • Morality
    • Our enemies are like us
    • Exploration & curiosity drive humanity
  • Timeline confusion & continuations
  • Death of Expanded Universe – Just like Star Wars – Books/Comics, etc. all obsoleted but will be used to pick from – “Black Fleet” comment in Discovery is based on concept by John M. Ford
  • Video Games of Star Trek
    • Good:
      • 25th Anniversary/ Judgment Rights
      • Star Trek: Bridge Commander
      • Star Trek: Starfleet Command (series)
      • Star Trek: Armada (series)
      • ST Voyager: Elite Force (series)
      • ST:TNG Pinball Table
    • Bad:
      • Star Trek: Klingon Honor Guard
      • Star Trek: New Worlds
      • Star Trek (2013)

One Dumb Thing

  • Gotham – The Entire Premise


Intro Music: Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Main Topic Music:  Picard Song – Dark Materia

Outro Music : Serious Monkey Business: 2-01 Roller Disco – ReMixer: Zylance

Episode 17: Why Can’t Metroid Crawl?

We discuss The Orville, Ohio’s unhappiness, Nintendo’s getting violent, and something near and dear to heart… METROID. The last Metroid is in captivity, and this podcast is at peace.

Episode 17: Why Can’t Metroid Crawl?
Sines, Co-Sines, & Tangents

00:00 / 1:27:53


Main Topic: Metroid

  • Why does Metroid still matter?
  • 2D Metroid vs 3D Metroid
  • Jared nerds out ‘bout Metroid lore
  • Jared & Shawn both really like Metroid
  • Two metroid hiatuses only makes the desire stronger
  • Metroid Samus Returns still stands out amongst a cornucopia of other Metroidvania indie games. Does Metroid II justice

One Dumb Thing


Intro Music: Theme of Samus Aran, Space Warrior (Smash Bros. Brawl)

Main Topic Music:  Main Theme (Metroid) (Smash Bros. Brawl)

Outro Music: Menu Select (Metroid Prime)